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I am actually VERY fond of the new Coldplay album. Call me lame if you must, but I think it's extremely good - WAY better than X&Y...

X/Y is so much better than Rush of Blood. But Torr, I seem to remember you not liking X/Y when it came out.

I believe that at the time I did think XY was weaker than Rush Blood, but now with some distance to it it's plainly clear that X&Y is far superior.

Rush Blood just has too many weak tracks:

# "Daylight" – 5:27
# "A Whisper" – 3:58
# "A Rush of Blood to the Head" – 5:51
# "Amsterdam" – 5:19

oh, and I'm honored that you remember what I thought of an album from a few years ago :-)

torr, you are most certainly not the only one who feels that way.

outside of "in my place", i can't stand that record. "x & y" blows it away.

cold play? who are they?

A Rush of Blood and Amsterdam weak tracks? oh my... STRONGLY disagree... I LOVED Rush... I own X&Y but it's so bland and the lyrics are so "cat in the hat"...

new one is back to where they needed to be and the step forward that I had hoped X&Y would be....

all my humble opinion, mind you...

I think RUSH, PARACHUTES, and VIVA are masterpieces.

P.S. "In My Place" is my all time favorite COLDPLAY song... those opening chords just send me over the moon everytime I hear it...

Strawberry Swing is now contender for my favorite.

I also think X&Y was better than A Rush... Like you said, A Rush has too many weak tracks, it gets quite boring at some point. I like the title track, though. It's a surpsisingly menacing Coldplay song ("...Said I'm gonna a buy a gun and start a war...", etc.)!

Count me in the X&Y > A Rush Of Blood To The Head > Parachutes group. Though after the first dozen or so listens, Viva La Vida is a bit weak to me. I'd give it a 3/5. It sounds to me as if Eno was given a bit too much leeway.

Call me a purist, but you'll never be one of the great bands when a piano is that prominent in so many of your tracks. Not that not being great is a bad thing, but I think it is for Coldplay who so clearly want to be.

I see what you mean with that comment about the piano, and I mostly agree. It's just some un-nameable thing... a Really Great Rock Band needs proper guitars. I don't know why, but it does seem to be so.

But let's talk about Brian Eno, then. Is he actually a sonic genius or is his reputation quite much exaggerated? Let's think of the artists he's produced lately: U2, Travis (though sessions were scrapped), James, Coldplay. Quite MOR, play-it-safe rock bands (OK, well, James can be adventurous, but...). When was the last time he made somethign truly "WHOA!!!"?

I'm of the opinion that Eno is a nice guy to have in the room, but not someone you want to hand the reins to. My analogy of Eno is to that of Joe Torre: not the greatest results as the man in charge until the hall of fame lineup was dropped in his lap.

i agree about Eno, like many producers of his era he's been coasting by on reputation for many years now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_eno

and let's not forget all this genius stuff ;-)

Synthesizer on Daryl Hall's "Sacred Songs" (1980)

Keyboards on The Neville Brothers' "Yellow Moon" (1989)

And producing Toto's Dune soundtrack (1984)

And Pete, to reference your, "a Really Great Rock Band needs proper guitars" comment, I think it also comes down to a Really Great Rock Band needs a frontman that can connect (especially in the live setting), and that just simply can't be done when you're sitting in front of a piano for half the show.

Heh, that's true! So it's a really simple equation, then... :-)

I'm an eager fan of Coldplay's but I think this new album ranks below X & Y. All the songs are of great quality, but there are no epic tracks like on X & Y.

The new Wolf Parade is outstanding as well. I wish they had more tracks where both Boeckner and Krug sing interchangeably instead of having totally separate tracks where only either/or of the two sing the whole song through.

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